rHE NASSAU POSTi FttKAr^JHT H. Y, SATURDAY, JULY 4, 1914
MRS CARMAN TELLS OF MURDER SCENE
(Continued from page 1)
Q—That VMS on a prior occasion? A~Y««.
Q—That didn't disturb your piece of mind? A—No, the doctor often lends money. .
Q—The fact that he leaned money to a nurse di-n't bother you, did It? A—No.
Q—So that nothing had transpired previ<.>us to this night in question, <o the rappliig cn the v.irdow, has dhi- turbea your mi'td? A—No, only that he often lai.i,'ud about his girls and that ..he i. le there often and they would sit an J v''\.
Q—Did she ray the tryoney back? A—i demai...lc'i ¦¦t-.ti Rl-ie ;;ive the mon¬ ey back and she asked the doctor If sho must. He said if I wanted it she muat. She (ttve it to me.
Q—Hov/ lu.ig after that was it that you decid'-'i *¦' net the dictograph? A— : \/ent so.v.t tii;.'.' in May. It was un¬ der two weeks.
Q—That was what prompted you lo get the . tograph? A-S-Ves. Q—And nothing else? A—Nothing ' else.
Q—After you had the dictograph in stalled, did you use it much? A— Well, I used it quite a good deal. I tried to see If I could get accustomed to hearing through It.
Q—Did you hear? A—Not always. Q—Did you hear the doctor talking to patients? A—Yes.
Q—Did you make any notv? A— No.
Q—Do you recall of this nurse being at the doctor's office after the dicto¬ graph was Installed? A—No, becauae on that night I told her that it would suit me Just as well if she didn't come after that.
Q—Did you hear the doctor talk with anyone else In the office? A—I didn't get connected statements.
Q—Did you hear anything that dis¬ turbed your peace of mind? A—No.
Q—Not in the lenst? A—It was .-a- ther the other way.
Q—It rather reassured you? A— Yes.
Q—So thnt you felt satisfied? A— I felt that all that I heard had been re¬ assuring.
Q—So that you had no suspicions of his conduct in any way? A—No.
Q—How long is it that you had sus¬ picions? A—Oh, I dont know that I could tell you exactly, but I should say about a year.
C—Didn't you have suspicions when you put in the dictograph?.^ A—I thought you meant when I had first had suspicions.
Q—I asked you how long ago that you lost your suspicions? A—I don t recall that I had eaid that I lost it. But I didn't hear anything.
Q—Then you're rather suspicious up to th" present time? A—I wasn't more suspicious; rather more the other way.
Q—But your suspicions hadn't alto¬ gether been removed? A—When I went to see the man about the dicto¬ graph, I didn't know whether I want- dd It or not. I was still to pay $50 to purcha.,(. i*. On that occanon I got back the letter I had sent to the Dic¬ tograph Company, as the man had promised I would. I destroyed it. That was about two v/cc ^ ago.
Q_T,'.»n Hi were siiii aH I was.
Q—That t'usplciou hasn't been en- lilt J removed yet? said If yo'j r.^e\- it when ;.ie wi, be able to h-
extra money. [each newspaper, and ttiey were given
Q—You Intended to use it right on 7: tt>® preterenc* places in the front A Yes. I rows. Justice Norton took his seat
Q-—You didn t tell the doctor you . b«h*nd the large counsel Uble at pre- had it? A—No. )Cisely l.SSp. ni., and drew from a shod-
Q—You didn't tell your sister? A—j'^^ •*"'* brown satchel a black hand No. jb*K which Mrs. Bailey had carried to
Q—You told your mother? A—l^'"- Carman's office on the night she She advised me not to put it In, and * ^^ murdered. Then during a com- said I was a foolish girl. • [niotlon cauaed by the arrival of mem-
Q—Did your father know It? A {bers of th^» Carman family, the Jus
i .vjo you I e.opose
more. Th.
A—Oh, no.
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lice-Coroner posed before a battery of photographers who had ararngod themselves in the window of the court¬ room. Dr. Carmaa wluj sent for. Doctor Carman the First Witness
It was at 1.55 that the doctor ar¬ rived. Hia rotund flgure Ib well known to Freeporters. He was clad in a gray sack suit and wore a rather gaudy Scotch plaid necktie in which blue stripes crlss crossed with white. With his red cheeks he presented the ap¬ pearance of a truly patriotic citizen on the day before the Fourth of July. Tbe doctor was not wholly at hi.s ease when he entered nor even as he Htood up before Justice Norton and 'was fiworn. H Bold he lived In Fret'- yort and was a physician and surgeon 9j proCesakm. Hla age is forty-i-iix •nd iM liaa keen engaged in the prac . lice Ol luiOicine lor iweniy-dve year.i, I At hit) present home In Merrick road ho Buid he had lived for about aweive yearn. He sat bacic in the witness chair and folded ha arms a.s though >.o reassure hniself and folded his leg.s beneath hini.
The Dislrict Atiorney opened the eAiunination, the first of the inquest, in a plea.sant conversational mann;r, refering to Mr.s. alllley as "Lulu," ii nanuj which has not been heard in rouiieclion witb the murder case thus far before.
"Do you remeraoer Airs. Lulu liai¬ ley," be^an the District Attorney. "I do," replied the doctor. "Did she call at your oiflce on Tups- day evening aboul twenty minuted uf eight o'clock?"
Mrs. Bailey Arrived at 7:40
The physician said that she had come to the house while he was at supper, presumably about 7.40, .and that he had .seen her sometime there¬ after perhaps about ight o'clock. The office into which Mrs. Bailey had been e.scoried the doctor said, was on the we.sl side of the house. It contained two windows on the we.st side on on? his assistant George Weeks, Village i overlookinK an entrance porch on the President and Chief of police Roland j south. The two sat down together M. Lamb, SherllT Stephen P. Pettit, and Mrs. IJailey reported her condt- Constable Thomas W. Murray, Justice uon to the physician, of the Peace oCrodon Norton, Couns'il- j)r. Carman prescribed for .Mr.s, lor George M. Levy and members cf i Hailey for a general run down roiuli-
No.
Q—What time did you disconnect It on Wednesday? A—Early In the morning. Q—Before you dressed? A—Yes. Q—Had you told the doctor that it was there at that time? A—No.
Q—Why did you think it was neces¬ sary to take it out so early? A—Well, I didn't want him to think that after this ocurrence that I was suspicious of him. I thought I would take it out and not let him know anythFhg about it; that if I was suspicious of him he wouldn't have any one to go to.
With the same reserve that she had exhibited throughout the entire time she was on the witness stand, Mrs. Carman told how she had taken the dictograph from the wall of her hus. band's office in the early morning, garbed only in a night robe. She said she had taken it to the attic and there hidden it in a crevice between the stairs and wall.
The Diatrict Attorney qaestioned the witness closely about her visits to the attic, about the guns belonging to Dr. Carman stored there and the boxes in which she admitted she stored cloth¬ ing. She said she had never fired a revolver and had never held one in her hand except when she cleaned ths doctor's drawer and moved his about.
Mrs. Carman fiatly declared that she had never seen Mrs. Bailey until she went to the undertaker's in Hempstead to view her body at the suggestion of her attorney, George M. Levy. She as- serted that Mr. Levy had come to her home on another matter and someone suggested that he would be a good lawyer if they needed one.
Coroner Norton asked her if she had listened to the dictograph on the night of the murder. "No 1 didn't," she firmly declared. CROWDS THRONG STREETS AND FILL DJNGY POLICE COURT
The courtroom was filled to the very doors long before the witness arrived. DisUiiit Attorney Lewis .1. Smith and
the village police department were of¬ ficially recognized by the audience in which Mrs. Corodon Norton, wife of the Jusiice, stood out conspicuously as the only woman nresent.
ny special arrangements "IMg Tom" Thorp of the Evening Journal, wa.s designated by the court to make up a roster of the reporters, one from
lion and malaria, he said. His medi¬ cine consisted of 2 grain quinine pillK, pink. A Small while envelope wai; taken from the black hand bag by the Justice and shown to him. He said that it was apparently the same lie had given to Mrs. Bailey on the nigKf she was iiiysterionsly felled by a bullet fired through one of the windows the
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Tbe doctor said he had attended a Mr. Kimball at Hempetead who waa a clo8« friend of the Baileys, but he de¬ nied ftny recollection of the charming wife of the hat manufacturer escep: that he had seen her wjien she came to hs office on the fatal Tuesday even¬ ing. Mrs. aBlley may have heen in the doctor's office betore, in fact, he recalled hazily that he had seen i woman who looked like her on th^ evening preceding the shooting. Of this he was not positive however for hs description of the woman was sim¬ ply that she wore black and wa.<; sit¬ ting in the wailing room when ht^ wti^ni out on a hurried call.
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T saw the curtain moving," he said, "I kept my eyes trained In that direc tlon. Then I saw a pistol com<» i through. To the best of my recollec¬ tion It waa a nickli gun. It was held by a whte hand on which 1 could dis¬ tinguish two fingers There waa iio part of the sleevf visible. I believo it was a left hand Kfter going over the situation that obtained at the tim»v Il would have beon almost imi>oss(ble for anyoni! to shoot holding a pistol In the rieht hand In the position thn: they would lia\e to stand outside.
"ThP pistol moved up and down af¬ ter it had bPfn poked through the win¬ dow. Apparently the person on thu out.side wa.s trying to get the arm i"u.-- rlier iiiin the' room."
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